Chatham Kraków - opinie?

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Witam - zainteresowałem się firmą Chatham Financial, a szczególnie tym stanowiskiem: http://www.pracuj.pl/praca/web-developer-krakow,oferta,3997623

Szukam opinii na jej temat, jest ich w necie dość mało (może nawet ktoś z was tam pracował lub pracuje).

Z góry dziękuję.

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Tez jestem ciekaw. Widzialem ich kiedys na studenckich targach pracy, ale nic nie chcieli powiedziec konkretnie poza tym, że podobno proces rekrutacji trwa kilka miesiecy bo szukaja ludzi ktorzy "dobrze fitują firmie".

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Rekrutacja w firmie trwa 5-6 godzin(!) i składa się z testów psychologicznych, podstawowego testu matematycznego, 2-3 testów technicznych i rozmowa z USA. Jak dla mnie taki proces w którym tracisz prawie cały dzień dyskwalifikuje firmę. Do teog sztuczna rozmowa ze wszystkimi po angielsku chociaż w biurze sami Polacy :)

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Chyba ze to jest 5-6h kilka razy co np 2 tygodnie. A skoro masz takie dokladne inforamcje co do procesu rekrutacji to moze wiesz jakie są widełki finansowe?

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Sprwadzenie angielskiego przez cały dzień? Proszę Was ;) 10minut na jakiś ciekawy temat pokazuje od razu jak ktoś wypowiada się po angielsku. Zarobki słabe 9-12k

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Historia prawdziwa napisał(a):

Tez jestem ciekaw. Widzialem ich kiedys na studenckich targach pracy, ale nic nie chcieli powiedziec konkretnie poza tym, że podobno proces rekrutacji trwa kilka miesiecy bo szukaja ludzi ktorzy "dobrze fitują firmie".

Sorry you had a bad experience. We usually try to staff job fair booths with programmers, but sometimes that is not the case. I'll forward your feedback and make sure we prep staff on programming positions if they are not familiar with the role.

The recruitment process can take a fair bit of time, but it really boils down to the candidate. There are currently 4 steps:

  1. Short phone interview, usually with one of our programmers.
  2. Code review exercise, by email. Candidates have up to a week of time to complete the assignment. A junior-level candidate should be able to complete this within 1-2 hours.
  3. Initial on-site, around half a day. Starts with a GMAT-format math test + speed and accuracy test. We use this to check if a candidate is comfortable working with numbers. This is followed by three 45-minute interviews with Krakow team members.
  4. Final on-site, around half a day. Around five 45-minute interviews, mostly teleconferences with the US team.

The entire recruitment process usually takes around 2 weeks. Our process is not set in stone and we can be flexible if the need arises.

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Sprwadzenie angielskiego przez cały dzień? Proszę Was ;) 10minut na jakiś ciekawy temat pokazuje od razu jak ktoś wypowiada się po angielsku.

From experience, I can tell you that this is not the case. We have had candidates who were able to express themselves well during the initial phone interview, but were incomprehensible when asked to explain a concept in the technical domain. We need to make sure candidates are proficient in English (around C1 level). The office in Krakow is home to several English-speaking employees and regularly houses guests from the other offices. Programmers often work in mixed (Poland-US, Poland-South America) teams and product owners are typically located in the US and UK.

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Zarobki słabe 9-12k

I'm not sure when you applied, but this information is out of date. I'm not privy to the actual brackets, but I can safely say they are 9+. We adjust our initial compensation offer based on skills and experience. We differ from other corporations in that year-end bonuses can be much higher than with other companies (20%) and raises are based on performance and not on a capped value.

I currently work for Chatham - If there are other questions, I will try to answer them to the best of my ability. Polish is fine, I prefer to reply in English.

I enjoy my time here - the company is small and this allows technology processes to be at a level where they enable as opposed to restrict programmers. There is no set career path - which can be a positive/negative depending on how you look at things. I take it as a positive - there are always opportunities to improve and candidates who rather fix things as opposed to complain do well here. In terms of "baskets" as laid out by Junior_Krakow in this post: http://4programmers.net/Forum/Kariera/224406-widelki_na_roznych_poziomach_-_krakow_java?p=988146#id988146 - I can confirm that Chatham is in the 3rd basket.

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Just out of curiosity, how many candidates (percentwise) are at least C1 proficient? How many of those are coping with technical English?
I can see that your focus lies mainly on proficiency is speaking.

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reptile333 napisał(a):

Just out of curiosity, how many candidates (percentwise) are at least C1 proficient? How many of those are coping with technical English?

The average candidate is between B1 and B2. This requirement is less flexible when we open new positions in the Krakow office, because we need the potential hire to be able to hold their own against English speaking teammates. Such is the case for the front-end and database positions we currently have open. This requirement is more flexible and tends to be inversely proportional to how good a candidate is technically as a team grows in size (the stronger they are technically, the more relaxed we are towards the requirement). Such is the case for the back-end and platform positions we currently have open.

We turn down around 5-10% of candidates for English. Candidates with some professional experience (lets say 2+ years) in a corporate environment have few problems with technical English. We see a tendency that English proficiency increases as job experience increases. Candidates straight out of college fair the worst. Not many college students focus on mastering English during studies - definitely an area for improvement as I think proficiency in another language (English, German) is the easiest way to find a well-paying job on the current market. Technical mastery will only get you so far...

reptile333 napisał(a):

I can see that your focus lies mainly on proficiency is speaking.

In terms of English proficiency, yes. Our next focus is on technical skills and a candidate's approach to acquiring technical knowledge.

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Polak odpowiadający po angielsku ;) Myślę, że tyle wystarczy o tej firmie i ich traktowaniu ludzi

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Ze zbiorowego rozwolnienia w tym wątku wynika, że niektórzy to bo chyba chcieli po 15 minutowej rozmowie po polsku dostać robotę za 20 koła. :D

A jeśli ktoś ma problem z przeczytaniem tych postów po angielsku, to 95% dobrze płacących firm w tym kraju jest poza jego zasięgiem.

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Dla tych którzy zapomnieli: :P

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I wonder which level do you mean here: "I'm not privy to the actual brackets, but I can safely say they are 9+." ?
And how daily routine works: working hours, work from home possibility, flexibility etc. What is level of stress and atmosphere in work. As those thing are also important.

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WhiteLightning napisał(a):

I wonder which level do you mean here: "I'm not privy to the actual brackets, but I can safely say they are 9+."?

Please see:

y_ napisał(a):

In terms of "baskets" as laid out by Junior_Krakow in this post: http://4programmers.net/Forum/Kariera/224406-widelki_na_roznych_poziomach_-_krakow_java?p=988146#id988146 - I can confirm that Chatham is in the 3rd basket.

I would expand that list to include a 4th basket, starting at around 18+. Companies in that basket include GE Healthcare and Google (who, if I am not mistaken (?), has left Krakow).

WhiteLightning napisał(a):

And how daily routine works: working hours, work from home possibility, flexibility etc. What is level of stress and atmosphere in work. As those thing are also important.

Typical working hours are 9am-5pm. This is not set in stone and we are flexible; it is up to the discretion of the hire to iron out the details with their manager/team/co-workers. It is usually not a problem to work from home if you have some private matters to attend to, but we do discourage working from home for any longer period of time.

The environment is low stress, we have the benefit of (basically) developing software for ourselves, so we are in charge of setting and adjusting deadlines, as needed.

The technology team is around 110 people – most work in Pennsylvania, USA. We currently have 6 developers and 4 testers in the Krakow office. Teams are generally small (2-4 people) and are organized around projects which can last up to a year. Around 20% of those projects are strictly maintenance projects (meaning that we are either cleaning up technical debt or working to fix bottlenecks in older code), 10-15% of those are greenfield projects, and the remainder are ongoing streams to build out functionality in existing systems.

Continuous integration is central to our development process. We have a deployment pipeline in place with several gates (unit tests, static code analysis, integration tests, acceptance tests) to enforce a tight feedback loop. We are primarily a dotnet/C# shop with a micro-services architecture.

Is there anything specifically you would like to know about the environment/atmosphere?

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Google (who, if I am not mistaken (?), has left Krakow).

Not yet and as far as I'm concerned they haven't even officially stated that they will. The only info about this is from current/former employees who were told to start looking for new job / thinking about relocating. As for money I think you overestimate google here. I don't have any definite numbers but while I know some companies in Kraków that can offer up to 16k, I don't believe it goes much higher.

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This salary is from employment contract or B2B? And it's it gross or net amount? Or any other form of employment?
because it's drastically changing real net amount in Poland (don't know how it is in ornery countries)

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Is B2B possible?

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dominika dutkiewicz daj se siana, bo nawet imienia nie potrafisz poprawic w masowo wysylanych mejlach.

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a jak koledzy programisci jestescie tacy zdolni to zajmicie sie tworzeniem wlasnego biznesu, bo troche wstyd byc utrzymnakiem amerykanskiej korpo

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